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« Reply #100 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 07:37:36AM »
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The reason why STM can call themselves champs and no one else can is simple. In 3 years they beat champs from London, Niagara,Hamilton, Burlington, Newmarket, Mississauga, and Toronto. Name another team to do that over the same time span? I'll wait for your response.
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« Reply #101 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 08:27:27AM »
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While I do consider STM the #1 team in the province, the above argument does not hold water. Who cares about who they beat 3 years ago? It’s about this year. I’m of the belief that the other rankings are pretty solid but I’m not sure it’s that big of a deal. What I do believe is that winning an OFSSA game doesn’t make you a provincial champ. Having 9 provincial champs is just dumb. I think parents care more about it than kids though. Most kids realize what the games mean but parents like to brag
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« Reply #102 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 08:47:12AM »
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The kids who won their bowl games are provincial champions.  End of story.

The one adult coming on here every 5 minutes to tell kids they aren't real provincial champs needs to get a life.  Why does this bother you so much?  All of these kids worked hard to achieve their goals.  Yes many of these teams have provincial champions written on their rings or shirts, and that's great!  They earned it.  Your team lost, deal with it.

Watching adults come on this forum to try and tear down kids (and failing at it) is the epitome of pathetic!

Congratulations to all OFSAA Bowl Winners.  You truly are PROVINCIAL CHAMPIONS and nobody can ever take that away from you....especially not a pathetic adult hiding behind his computer in his mother's basement.
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« Reply #103 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 08:51:29AM »
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MOM stop! Go make breakfast and clean the house. This is adult time.
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« Reply #104 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 09:02:23AM »
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No they are not, only STM. End of story. Time to move on. Pretend all you want, does not make it fact.  So using your logic, every US Bowl Winner, is the National Champion.  Of course they are. Be ranked 35th, win your Bowl, Declare yourself US FBS National Champion.

Are you new to college football?  There was ALWAYS major debate over who won the National Championship before the college football playoff system....heck, even with the playoff system many believe undefeated UCF were national champions last year. 

Prior to the college football playoffs, There are multiple examples of multiple teams claiming the National Championship title in the same year!  If two Power 5 conference teams go undefeated and win their bowl games, they claimed national championships.

Same can hold true for OFSAA.  You're dealing with approximately 270 high school football teams in Ontario compared to only 130 FBS teams in the NCAA.  Add to that, less total games are being played at the high school level and crossover games are near impossible for many regions.  It makes the task of determining a true provincial champion impossible!

Your comparison of NCAA football is not only incorrect (because there HAS BEEN MULTIPLE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS IN THE SAME YEAR), but you're also comparing apples to oranges.

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« Reply #105 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 09:22:20AM »
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So you’re claiming that 9 teams are provincial champions? Which means 9 teams, including Ganonoque, are provincial championship runners up? Man, talk about participation badge parents. Everybody is a winner. What’s wrong with being an ofsaa bowl champ is my question? My kid won this year but nobody at our school believes that makes us Provincial Champs. We are OFSSA champs and damn proud of it,but calling us provincial champs cheapens what it actually means to be a provincial champion. STM can claim #1 in the country because the other site voted them as such but until they have a tournament that determines a winner ON THE FIELD, there are NO provincial champs in this province
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« Reply #106 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 09:28:33AM »
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The above poster is exactly right.  What we have now in Ontario is very similar to NCAA football prior to the playoffs (prior to 2014).  Just like how the NCAA had multiple national champions on several occasions, there are multiple provincial champions in Ontario high school football.

Holy Trinity and Korah went undefeated this year.  How can anybody say they aren't deserving of the provincial champions title?

If a Holy Trinity alum starts a website tomorrow and declares Holy Trinity #1 in Canada does that make it true?  Why do you believe this works for STM but not HT?

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« Reply #107 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 09:33:35AM »
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No they are not, only STM. End of story. Time to move on. Pretend all you want, does not make it fact.  So using your logic, every US Bowl Winner, is the National Champion.  Of course they are. Be ranked 35th, win your Bowl, Declare yourself US FBS National Champion.

Are you new to college football?  There was ALWAYS major debate over who won the National Championship before the college football playoff system....heck, even with the playoff system many believe undefeated UCF were national champions last year. 

Prior to the college football playoffs, There are multiple examples of multiple teams claiming the National Championship title in the same year!  If two Power 5 conference teams go undefeated and win their bowl games, they claimed national championships.

Same can hold true for OFSAA.  You're dealing with approximately 270 high school football teams in Ontario compared to only 130 FBS teams in the NCAA.  Add to that, less total games are being played at the high school level and crossover games are near impossible for many regions.  It makes the task of determining a true provincial champion impossible!

Your comparison of NCAA football is not only incorrect (because there HAS BEEN MULTIPLE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS IN THE SAME YEAR), but you're also comparing apples to oranges.



This is classic!  Guy tries to use NCAA college football to prove there's only 1 true national champion, then learns that there are multiple examples of teams sharing the College Football National Championship.  Bhahahaha.   Talk about getting WOKE!


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« Reply #108 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 10:07:45AM »
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His analogy actually works perfect, although not by his design. Before the CFP there were 2 polls and occasionally you had co champs. Now, you get 4 teams deciding a championship, but just like up here, you get losers claiming a title they have NO claim to, like UCF idiots. So congrats LP and Hespler, you are UCF idiots
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« Reply #109 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 10:38:25AM »
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No they are not, only STM. End of story. Time to move on. Pretend all you want, does not make it fact.  So using your logic, every US Bowl Winner, is the National Champion.  Of course they are. Be ranked 35th, win your Bowl, Declare yourself US FBS National Champion.

Are you new to college football?  There was ALWAYS major debate over who won the National Championship before the college football playoff system....heck, even with the playoff system many believe undefeated UCF were national champions last year. 

Prior to the college football playoffs, There are multiple examples of multiple teams claiming the National Championship title in the same year!  If two Power 5 conference teams go undefeated and win their bowl games, they claimed national championships.

Same can hold true for OFSAA.  You're dealing with approximately 270 high school football teams in Ontario compared to only 130 FBS teams in the NCAA.  Add to that, less total games are being played at the high school level and crossover games are near impossible for many regions.  It makes the task of determining a true provincial champion impossible!

Your comparison of NCAA football is not only incorrect (because there HAS BEEN MULTIPLE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS IN THE SAME YEAR), but you're also comparing apples to oranges.



This is classic!  Guy tries to use NCAA college football to prove there's only 1 true national champion, then learns that there are multiple examples of teams sharing the College Football National Championship.  Bhahahaha.   Talk about getting WOKE!




Where did this guy say there was 1 National Championship winner in NCAA in his ramblings. You just made that crap up.

He said if the 35th ranked team wins their non descript(my addition), bowl game, and then Declares themselves NATIONAL CHAMPION, it would equate to an Ontario HS winning 1 of 9 Bowl Games (see the equivalent yet fool), and then Declaring they are PROVINCIAL CHAMPIONS.

You dumbass's will do and say and change others concepts just to try and defend your undefendable position. 

No Provincial Champion in OFSAA sanctioned Football, which is just fine for 95% of the Province. It is only you knuckleheads of 9 fighting each other all preening saying I am Provincial Champion,... No I am Provincial Champion,... No I (up to 7 more times), unless some of you actually as stated above understand and realize that they are OFSAA Bowl WInners , 1 of 9.  Damn fine season they had too.
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« Reply #110 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 10:43:27AM »
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His analogy actually works perfect, although not by his design. Before the CFP there were 2 polls and occasionally you had co champs. Now, you get 4 teams deciding a championship, but just like up here, you get losers claiming a title they have NO claim to, like UCF idiots. So congrats LP and Hespler, you are UCF idiots

The only idiot is you for you not recognizing the accomplishments of all teams.  In 1997 was Michigan or Nebraska the "idiots"?  In 1978 was USC or Alabama the "idiots"?  In 2003 was USC or LSU the "idiots"? What about all the other times there were multiple national champions!

Your lack of knowledge on this topic makes you 100% not qualified to provide input!

Holy Trinity is UNDEFEATED this year.  How can you possibly claim they don't have at LEAST an equal stake in this year's provincial championship?

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« Reply #111 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 10:52:23AM »
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No they are not, only STM. End of story. Time to move on. Pretend all you want, does not make it fact.  So using your logic, every US Bowl Winner, is the National Champion.  Of course they are. Be ranked 35th, win your Bowl, Declare yourself US FBS National Champion.

Are you new to college football?  There was ALWAYS major debate over who won the National Championship before the college football playoff system....heck, even with the playoff system many believe undefeated UCF were national champions last year. 

Prior to the college football playoffs, There are multiple examples of multiple teams claiming the National Championship title in the same year!  If two Power 5 conference teams go undefeated and win their bowl games, they claimed national championships.

Same can hold true for OFSAA.  You're dealing with approximately 270 high school football teams in Ontario compared to only 130 FBS teams in the NCAA.  Add to that, less total games are being played at the high school level and crossover games are near impossible for many regions.  It makes the task of determining a true provincial champion impossible!

Your comparison of NCAA football is not only incorrect (because there HAS BEEN MULTIPLE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS IN THE SAME YEAR), but you're also comparing apples to oranges.



This is classic!  Guy tries to use NCAA college football to prove there's only 1 true national champion, then learns that there are multiple examples of teams sharing the College Football National Championship.  Bhahahaha.   Talk about getting WOKE!




Where did this guy say there was 1 National Championship winner in NCAA in his ramblings. You just made that crap up.

He said if the 35th ranked team wins their non descript(my addition), bowl game, and then Declares themselves NATIONAL CHAMPION, it would equate to an Ontario HS winning 1 of 9 Bowl Games (see the equivalent yet fool), and then Declaring they are PROVINCIAL CHAMPIONS.

You dumbass's will do and say and change others concepts just to try and defend your undefendable position. 

No Provincial Champion in OFSAA sanctioned Football, which is just fine for 95% of the Province. It is only you knuckleheads of 9 fighting each other all preening saying I am Provincial Champion,... No I am Provincial Champion,... No I (up to 7 more times), unless some of you actually as stated above understand and realize that they are OFSAA Bowl WInners , 1 of 9.  Damn fine season they had too.


Ranked by whom?  Clearly even you can recognize there's a difference between one guy sitting in his basement in Nova Scotia making rankings without even seeing film on 80% of the teams he ranks and without any stats, compared to the multi billion dollar college football industry.  Can't you?

That's exactly the problem, nova scotia man could have an undefeated team ranked 10th or even 40th that could very well be the best team in the country.  How are we to know?  If a team doesn't lose a game all year, how do we know this team isn't the best in Canada?  HT won every game they played by blowout scores.  If they played STM they might have blown them out too.



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« Reply #112 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 11:30:12AM »
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His analogy actually works perfect, although not by his design. Before the CFP there were 2 polls and occasionally you had co champs. Now, you get 4 teams deciding a championship, but just like up here, you get losers claiming a title they have NO claim to, like UCF idiots. So congrats LP and Hespler, you are UCF idiots

First of all it’s Hespeler...if you are going to call people idiots learn how to spell. Secondly, Jacob has said numerous times already that they are Central Bowl Champs not provincial Champions. Their rings will say “Ofsaa Central Bowl Champions”.
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« Reply #113 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 01:11:16PM »
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The Holy Trinity rings will say Provincial Champions
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« Reply #114 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 01:41:37PM »
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His analogy actually works perfect, although not by his design. Before the CFP there were 2 polls and occasionally you had co champs. Now, you get 4 teams deciding a championship, but just like up here, you get losers claiming a title they have NO claim to, like UCF idiots. So congrats LP and Hespler, you are UCF idiots

The only idiot is you for you not recognizing the accomplishments of all teams.  In 1997 was Michigan or Nebraska the "idiots"?  In 1978 was USC or Alabama the "idiots"?  In 2003 was USC or LSU the "idiots"? What about all the other times there were multiple national champions!

Your lack of knowledge on this topic makes you 100% not qualified to provide input!

Holy Trinity is UNDEFEATED this year.  How can you possibly claim they don't have at LEAST an equal stake in this year's provincial championship?
Did you just decide to ignore where I explicitly wrote about co. Champs when there was 2 polls? All your examples come from that period but don’t let my words get in the way of your narrative.

Hespeler - is that better, although who really gives a shit about the spelling - has been popping off this whole thread claiming themselves the top team as well as LP has.

If you hate the National rankings, do your own. I imagine everybody will be waiting with baited breath for your ranking. Many of us like the other ones so we are going to stick with that

Finally, we really need these top teams scrimmaging and playing games. The more of that we get the better
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« Reply #115 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 01:43:05PM »
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Clearly a troll. Holy Trinity did not give rings out last year and are not this year either. Please keep our school out of this ridiculous topic.
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« Reply #116 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 05:07:53PM »
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His analogy actually works perfect, although not by his design. Before the CFP there were 2 polls and occasionally you had co champs. Now, you get 4 teams deciding a championship, but just like up here, you get losers claiming a title they have NO claim to, like UCF idiots. So congrats LP and Hespler, you are UCF idiots

The only idiot is you for you not recognizing the accomplishments of all teams.  In 1997 was Michigan or Nebraska the "idiots"?  In 1978 was USC or Alabama the "idiots"?  In 2003 was USC or LSU the "idiots"? What about all the other times there were multiple national champions!

Your lack of knowledge on this topic makes you 100% not qualified to provide input!

Holy Trinity is UNDEFEATED this year.  How can you possibly claim they don't have at LEAST an equal stake in this year's provincial championship?
Did you just decide to ignore where I explicitly wrote about co. Champs when there was 2 polls? All your examples come from that period but don’t let my words get in the way of your narrative.

Hespeler - is that better, although who really gives a shit about the spelling - has been popping off this whole thread claiming themselves the top team as well as LP has.

If you hate the National rankings, do your own. I imagine everybody will be waiting with baited breath for your ranking. Many of us like the other ones so we are going to stick with that

Finally, we really need these top teams scrimmaging and playing games. The more of that we get the better

Prior to the BCS era, there are multiple examples of more than 2 teams sharing the College Football National Championship.  Do you need us to list those for you too?

In Ontario we don't have large committees of qualified people reviewing extensive game film, stats, crossover games, etc......instead we have 1 guy in Nova Scotia who has never watched 90% of the teams he's "ranking"....seems legit though, right?  LOL!

Buddy, you need to stop posting because every time you do, you put your foot in your mouth and get proven wrong again!



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« Reply #117 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 05:25:09PM »
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Does Holy Trinity have any mutual opponents with any of the bowl teams?  HT won every game they played by very big scores.  Who's to say they aren't the best team in Canada?
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« Reply #118 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 05:30:12PM »
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Does Holy Trinity have any mutual opponents with any of the bowl teams?  HT won every game they played by very big scores.  Who's to say they aren't the best team in Canada?

Start a website, put them at #1 and you can roll with that TIL your hearts content. As of now there is 1 site doing it and they have a different school at 1. C’est la vie
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« Reply #119 on: Sat, 08-Dec-18 @ 07:48:33PM »
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Lorne Park is putting Provincial Champions on their rings again.  We are going to look amazing with 2 Provincial Champion rings on our fingers!  Back 2 Back! 



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