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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 30-Nov-18 @ 01:03:17PM »
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Queens has gone .500 or below .500 4 out of the last 5 seasons.

Pat deserves to be fired. At least The university gave him enough respect to make it seem like he left on his own terms.

There needs to be more accountability in USports and more importance put on wins and losses when it comes to Coaches jobs.

That would be more true in the U.S.A where the programs make money. In Canada, that is not the case and there is not a plethora of HC qualified guys running around to plug in if you don't like your guy. Incredible how quickly guys get fired south of the border before they even get a chance to build a program.
Now, Look at Bert at UW. Coulda let him go after year two with your theory when they couldn't even beat York. Now look at them. If I'm a parent of a Usport Fball player I want my kid to have a great experience, learn to deal with adversity and be a great teammate, stay in school and come out with a degree from a coach who respects that he is a STUDENT-athlete in Canada vs U.S.A

The other issue is often a staffing/union issue. Because most football coaches fall under the faculty union at each school, they are different to hire/fire with impunity. When Laurier got rid of Ryan Pyear as their OC they had to have him working in the athletic centre at the same salary because he was a permanent employee. These guys are hard to fire without having to buy them out, and there's no money to buy out 3 full-time guys and hire 3 or more new ones.

As well, many schools are just looking for competence, academic success and good representation of their school. Greg Knox and Kevin MacNeil were both fired this year despite on-field success, but because they couldn't do these things. Same reason the UW football program was canned after the steroid scandal, or McGill after that hazing incident a few years ago.
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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 30-Nov-18 @ 01:41:36PM »
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The signing of Jaden Bailey is a decent start, Hope he is ok with playing another spot other then RB. Could use his frame at DE or WR (ya he could play either spot!)

We have a special kid down this weekend! If we land him, could be a HUGE piece to the puzzle. Def a difference maker and a top kid in Ontario!
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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 30-Nov-18 @ 03:52:54PM »
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Very poor analogy as Bertoia was in his second year trying to make chicken soup from chicken shit. But once he was able to bring in a few classes he has shown that he is the best coach in the OUA when you consider these factors, the budget his program has, the high academic standards of UW and working under the stigma of a program that was a perennial loser for most of the decade.
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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 30-Nov-18 @ 04:36:46PM »
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The signing of Jaden Bailey is a decent start, Hope he is ok with playing another spot other then RB. Could use his frame at DE or WR (ya he could play either spot!)

We have a special kid down this weekend! If we land him, could be a HUGE piece to the puzzle. Def a difference maker and a top kid in Ontario!

I’m a bit surprised to hear Jaden is coming back. I spoke to both Jaden and his mom at the end of this past October and it sounded like he was staying in US for next year.
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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 02-Dec-18 @ 11:22:30PM »
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Any news on where P Sheahan might end up?
It won't be Mac with Coach P there, unless he picks him up as an OC.
That leaves Guelph, Windsor, or some other Univ as an OC maybe?
Thoughts?
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« Reply #45 on: Mon, 03-Dec-18 @ 08:23:12AM »
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He has lots of contacts at Mcgill, Concordia and out west at Calgary as well as UofT.
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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 07-Dec-18 @ 08:32:42AM »
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He has lots of contacts at Mcgill, Concordia and out west at Calgary as well as UofT.

Well Calgary won't bring him in.  They are stacked at coaching and his son is one of those coaches. So unless they fire Ryan I don't see that happening.
Maybe McGill or Concordia.
With U of T there are lots of challenges  Difficult to win there. If he ends up there he can chalk up more Losses to his coaching record. This won't help him if he changes his mind and wants to coach elsewhere. It'll just look like he's on a downward spiral. As a HC he could hire people to do the job. He won't have that liberty as an OC. 
Where do you see him ending up?
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« Reply #47 on: Fri, 07-Dec-18 @ 08:59:15PM »
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At ConU the only possibility would be as OC if there is a change which is far from certain? Not sure that Pat would be interested at this point of his career. Would be able to open some doors to recruits from Ontario however which is a big plus and needed to build a competitive program once again.
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