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Offside Pass
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« on: Fri, 16-Nov-18 @ 02:16:42PM »
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I am pretty certain the answer is No.

Is an Offside Pass which touches the ground a live ball?

Team B receives punt in own End Zone.
B player throws the ball from the End Zone and lands on the ground at the B12 yard line.
A Team player picks up the ball at the B12 and advances it to the B5 yard line and is tackled.

It is ruled an Offside Pass, however it the ball ruled dead and whistle blown when ball lands on the 12 yard line?
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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 16-Nov-18 @ 10:50:43PM »
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The ball is alive.  Team A 1D and goal at the B5
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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 17-Nov-18 @ 12:49:57PM »
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I am pretty certain the answer is No.

Is an Offside Pass which touches the ground a live ball?

Team B receives punt in own End Zone.
B player throws the ball from the End Zone and lands on the ground at the B12 yard line.
A Team player picks up the ball at the B12 and advances it to the B5 yard line and is tackled.

It is ruled an Offside Pass, however it the ball ruled dead and whistle blown when ball lands on the 12 yard line?

Well yes and no.

Technically, an offside pass is "made when the ball is directed in any manner other than being kicked, in the direction of the opponents’ dead line." (6-3-1).

For the sake of this discussion there are three types of offside passes:
1. Those that are "thrown by any Team A player from behind the line of scrimmage toward the Team B dead line..." which are Forward Passes. (6-4-1)
2. Those where the "Team A passer crosses the line of scrimmage and throws what is obviously intended to be a forward pass" which is treated as a Forward Pass (6-3-4-4).
3. The rest.

The ball will be dead for those that fall into categories #1 and #2 (6-4-7).  For any other type of offside pass, hitting the ground does not cause it to be dead.

So in your situation of an offside pass from the end zone after receiving a punt, it cannot qualify as a forward pass so this type of offside pass would remain alive when it hits the ground.

Note that in common discussions we usually only talk about "offside passes" as those that are not also forward passes.

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