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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 14-Nov-12 @ 10:25:27AM »
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Was just informed that uottawa did not play a spread offense against Mac this year so you guys might be right in the fact that Mac might not be ready for a powerful read option game
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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 15-Nov-12 @ 02:05:49PM »
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15 Reasons why Calgary Dinos win the Mitchell Bowl 42 to 21.

1)Calgary has steamrolled the opposition save for 1 game this year in CW.
2)Calgary played its worst game in years last year vs Laval.  Make no mistake this is a very motivated team this year focused on getting back to playing Laval again. They have come east packed for, prepared and planning on staying 10 days through the Vanier.
3)They are a much better team across the board than last year and have much better depth. This is the best team to come out of CW since the 07 Bisons.
4)Lumbala is the best back in the nation and unlike any back that McMaster has faced the past couple of years.  Only back close to him was Varga at the start of last year before he got banged up.
5)He runs behind the best oline in the nation...All Stars Fabien, McEwen, McCaughen and Alexander and Rockhill. All future CFLers.
6)Calgary has a new found pass game lead by a very good zone read QB Dzwilewski who is up for the Hec Crichton.  There is not much difference between him and Quinlan.
7)Their defensive line is very impressive and is the best in the nation.  They do with 3 (Gaydosh, Symons and Klassen) what it takes other teams to do having to use 4.
8)Calgary is the most physical team in the CIS. They thrive on going out and physically dominating people.
9)Calgary has a huge advantage in that their OC Delaval has extensive knowledge of McMaster from his time as HC of the Toronto Varsity Blues and having faced McMaster many times.
10)McMaster has been winning by small scores even against inferior opposition. Every game, against stronger or weaker opponents, they have struggled for a quarter or a half.
11)Quinlan has not played his best for most of this year.  He misses a lot of open receivers and has taken to just running himself.  Not a good idea vs the Calgary defence.
12)McMaster has no where near the running game of Calgary.
13)McMaster's play calling has been very conservative.
14)McMaster needs to keep their 'bend but don't break' defence off the field.
15)McMaster's defence can be scored on in bunches when they do break.
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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 15-Nov-12 @ 02:47:33PM »
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6)Calgary has a new found pass game lead by a very good zone read QB Dzwilewski who is up for the Hec Crichton.  There is not much difference between him and Quinlan.
11)Quinlan has not played his best for most of this year.  He misses a lot of open receivers and has taken to just running himself.  Not a good idea vs the Calgary defence.

There’s a lot of difference between Dzwilewski and Quinlan,

1. Quinlan doesn't get pulled for poor performances. what people consider a poor performance for Quinlan is a great game for any other QB include Dzwilewski.
2. He doesn't choke when his team needs him the most
3. He jumps Defenders
4. He runs defenders over
5. He’s beaten Laval
6. Averages 307 yards per a game in arguably a tough division (4  worse pass defense’s came from can west)
7. Yates cup mvp
8. Uteck bowl mvp
9. Vanier cup MVP
10. He puts his pants on both legs at a time. (may have made that one up)

Also I would hate to have seen his numbers if he was at his best all season,  68.9% competition, 2457 yards 19 td and 2 picks.  If only he had played better or even full games.
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 15-Nov-12 @ 04:30:43PM »
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Hardest part is figuring out which division is stronger, hence the 'MAC is better because they did this' versus the 'Calgary is better because they did this' arguments that neither side may ever let up on. The Dinos and Marauders are two teams very well matched to face each other. I feel both have the tools on offence to exploit the other side, while at the same time have the defenders to shut down the other team. Unlike the Uteck Bowl, where the two teams have already played once this year, and where lately Acadia has been relying on the run which plays right into Laval's defensive strong suit, the Mitchell Bowl is between two teams so well rounded it may purely come down to execution on that day.

Will Quinlan be on or will he be shaky? Will Dzwilewski be on or put in another performance that is worthy of having him pulled from the game? It may come down to which QB has the better day. And if both are on?? Well then, we're in for a *****ing treat!  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 15-Nov-12 @ 04:46:32PM »
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No disrespect to all the postings, but I think a key factor in the game will be who will make plays other than the usual star suspects ..that is what will determine the winner
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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 15-Nov-12 @ 06:56:18PM »
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15 Reasons why Calgary Dinos win the Mitchell Bowl 42 to 21.

1)Calgary has steamrolled the opposition save for 1 game this year in CW.
2)Calgary played its worst game in years last year vs Laval.  Make no mistake this is a very motivated team this year focused on getting back to playing Laval again. They have come east packed for, prepared and planning on staying 10 days through the Vanier.
3)They are a much better team across the board than last year and have much better depth. This is the best team to come out of CW since the 07 Bisons.
4)Lumbala is the best back in the nation and unlike any back that McMaster has faced the past couple of years.  Only back close to him was Varga at the start of last year before he got banged up.
5)He runs behind the best oline in the nation...All Stars Fabien, McEwen, McCaughen and Alexander and Rockhill. All future CFLers.
6)Calgary has a new found pass game lead by a very good zone read QB Dzwilewski who is up for the Hec Crichton.  There is not much difference between him and Quinlan.
7)Their defensive line is very impressive and is the best in the nation.  They do with 3 (Gaydosh, Symons and Klassen) what it takes other teams to do having to use 4.
8)Calgary is the most physical team in the CIS. They thrive on going out and physically dominating people.
9)Calgary has a huge advantage in that their OC Delaval has extensive knowledge of McMaster from his time as HC of the Toronto Varsity Blues and having faced McMaster many times.
10)McMaster has been winning by small scores even against inferior opposition. Every game, against stronger or weaker opponents, they have struggled for a quarter or a half.
11)Quinlan has not played his best for most of this year.  He misses a lot of open receivers and has taken to just running himself.  Not a good idea vs the Calgary defence.
12)McMaster has no where near the running game of Calgary.
13)McMaster's play calling has been very conservative.
14)McMaster needs to keep their 'bend but don't break' defence off the field.
15)McMaster's defence can be scored on in bunches when they do break.

1. Agreed but CW isn't a good barometer for the rest of the country.
2. Western booked a plane to BC last year before Yates was decided.  Calgary may have made a similar mistake.
3. Don't know, no comment.
4. Lumbala alone can't win the game.  Whether he's the best is debatable.
5. Pretty good OLine, for sure.
6. It will be interesting how effective the pass game is.
7. The DLine is against the best OLine they've faced.
8. Again, a silly claim.  There are a lot of physical teams.
9. I don't even know how to comment on this.  How successful was DeLaval against Mac?
10. McMaster has coasted at times and have won by a plus margin of around 280 points this season.
11. Quinlan is Quinlan.  See if you can stop him.
12. Maybe not but they seem to have an endless supply of RB's.
13. Conservative and effective.  Again, see if you can stop them.
14. McMaster's defense leaves the field a whole lot with the ball in their possession.
15. When have they been scored on in "bunches".  Certainly not in the last 20 games they haven't.

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« Reply #26 on: Fri, 16-Nov-12 @ 12:09:18PM »
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Good teams have had some success running the ball vs McMaster.  Dline was one of their weaknesses starting this season and they really didn't address it.  Queen's rushed for 132, Western 150 and Guelph 126. Dino's run game is the best in the country, Lumbala is by far the best back in the country and their oline looks like and blocks like a pro oline.  Lumbala could top 200 himself. Dinos have to many weapons.  It wont even be close.  Both the Stamps and Dinos are at the Dome next weekend.
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« Reply #27 on: Fri, 16-Nov-12 @ 04:01:35PM »
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Good teams have had some success running the ball vs McMaster.  Dline was one of their weaknesses starting this season and they really didn't address it.  Queen's rushed for 132, Western 150 and Guelph 126. Dino's run game is the best in the country, Lumbala is by far the best back in the country and their oline looks like and blocks like a pro oline.  Lumbala could top 200 himself. Dinos have to many weapons.  It wont even be close.  Both the Stamps and Dinos are at the Dome next weekend.


Mac gave up 837  yard rushing on 208 attempts during the reason, that equals 4.02 yards per carry, best in the OUA.

Calgary gave up 835 yards rushing on 184 attempts for a 4.5 yards per carry average.

So going by statistics, Mac's run defense is actually better than Calgary's...


Also, Calgary gave up 157 yards rushing to UBC, 135 yards rushing to Regina, and 142 yards rushing to Manitoba. Western, Queen's and Guelph are all better than those 3 teams also, except maybe Regina.
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« Reply #28 on: Fri, 16-Nov-12 @ 04:19:36PM »
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15 Reasons why Calgary Dinos win the Mitchell Bowl 42 to 21.

1)Calgary has steamrolled the opposition save for 1 game this year in CW.
2)Calgary played its worst game in years last year vs Laval.  Make no mistake this is a very motivated team this year focused on getting back to playing Laval again. They have come east packed for, prepared and planning on staying 10 days through the Vanier.
3)They are a much better team across the board than last year and have much better depth. This is the best team to come out of CW since the 07 Bisons.
4)Lumbala is the best back in the nation and unlike any back that McMaster has faced the past couple of years.  Only back close to him was Varga at the start of last year before he got banged up.
5)He runs behind the best oline in the nation...All Stars Fabien, McEwen, McCaughen and Alexander and Rockhill. All future CFLers.
6)Calgary has a new found pass game lead by a very good zone read QB Dzwilewski who is up for the Hec Crichton.  There is not much difference between him and Quinlan.
7)Their defensive line is very impressive and is the best in the nation.  They do with 3 (Gaydosh, Symons and Klassen) what it takes other teams to do having to use 4.
8)Calgary is the most physical team in the CIS. They thrive on going out and physically dominating people.
9)Calgary has a huge advantage in that their OC Delaval has extensive knowledge of McMaster from his time as HC of the Toronto Varsity Blues and having faced McMaster many times.
10)McMaster has been winning by small scores even against inferior opposition. Every game, against stronger or weaker opponents, they have struggled for a quarter or a half.
11)Quinlan has not played his best for most of this year.  He misses a lot of open receivers and has taken to just running himself.  Not a good idea vs the Calgary defence.
12)McMaster has no where near the running game of Calgary.
13)McMaster's play calling has been very conservative.
14)McMaster needs to keep their 'bend but don't break' defence off the field.
15)McMaster's defence can be scored on in bunches when they do break.


1. Mac has steamrolled opposition save 1 game in the OUA, which is a stronger conference.
2. Mac beat Laval last year, and aren't satisfied and want it as bad as anyone.
3. Mac is a much better team across the board also, have used 6 RB's and all perform well, a handful of new receivers have stepped up, DB's also.
4. Best in terms of what? Yardage? No. Yards per carry? Again, no.
5. Best OL in the nation? According to? They actually are undersized as an OL
6. Not much difference between him and Quinlan? HUGE difference actually, Quinlan is far superior, and can hurt you more ways.
7. Well, they give up more yards rushing than Mac, so they aren't better in that regard, and Also, Mac had 33 sacks for 216 yards, while Calgary had 25 sacks for 126 yards, so Mac's better in that department also.
8. That's your opinion, from what I've seen, Western is definitely a more physical team.
9. Well, he couldn't beat Mac when he was at UofT...
10. McMaster has been going up huge, and then subbing really early in games, against better opponents than Calgary, so teams have made it close late.
11. Quinlan still put up amazing numbers, so if he hasn't been playing his best all year, better hope he doesn't tomorrow. And you say it like taking to running is bad, when he's averaging over 10 yards a rush.
12. Mac has 1700 yards rushing on 235 attempts, for 7.23 yards a rush. Calgary has 1740 on on 243 attempts for 7.2 yards per attempt.
13. Maybe Mac's play-calling has been conservative because they don't need to use anything else? Why show more than you need to.
14. McMaster's "bend but don't break" defence has them on the longest winning streak in CIS history, and the defending Vanier Cup champions, why change that?
15. Any defence can be scored on in bunches when it breaks... Fortunately, it's very rare when Mac's defence does break.
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« Reply #29 on: Sat, 17-Nov-12 @ 04:34:16PM »
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Anyone have any idea why Fabien or Getty aren't playing?  I've seen Fabien on the field once for the ill fated 3rd down, but he's not plaing with the base O.
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« Reply #30 on: Sat, 17-Nov-12 @ 04:54:33PM »
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On twitter the UCdinos announced Getty wouldn't be playing about an hour or so before the game, not sure about Fabien..

7-3 McMaster after one.
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« Reply #31 on: Sat, 17-Nov-12 @ 04:57:07PM »
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Mac adds a single on the ensuing kickoff, 8-3 McMaster.
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« Reply #32 on: Sat, 17-Nov-12 @ 05:01:28PM »
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TSN announcer just said Fabien was hurt in the Hardy Cup.
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« Reply #33 on: Sat, 17-Nov-12 @ 05:07:25PM »
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Johnny Mark just missed a 20 yard field goal wide right, Mac returner tackled in the endzone, 8-4 McMaster.
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« Reply #34 on: Sat, 17-Nov-12 @ 05:17:14PM »
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Safety given up by Calgary. McMaster up 10-4. 9:45 left in the 2nd quarter.
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« Reply #35 on: Sat, 17-Nov-12 @ 05:19:56PM »
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2 straight sacks for MAC. First by D'aguilar, 2nd by Shortill.
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« Reply #36 on: Sat, 17-Nov-12 @ 05:28:06PM »
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Touchdown McMaster. 17-4 McMaster with 3:30 left in the first half.
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« Reply #37 on: Sat, 17-Nov-12 @ 05:36:02PM »
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Fochesato with a 61 yard TD, 24-4 McMaster with 2:12 to go in the first half.
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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 17-Nov-12 @ 05:44:16PM »
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McMaster up 24-4 at the half.
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« Reply #39 on: Sat, 17-Nov-12 @ 06:13:34PM »
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TD McMaster on the opening drive of the 3rd quarter. McMaster 31 Calgary 4 with 11:44 left in the 3rd.
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